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From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>
To: Hui Zhu <teawater@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	  "gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [RFA/RFC] Add dump and load command to process record and replay
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A7F5410.4000400@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <daef60380908080137k4b5d9964n18c02d50e2a5a29b@mail.gmail.com>

Hui Zhu wrote:
> I think give him a query is very clear.
> 
> When he load, if there are some record log, it will query to user.  He
> must choice remove the old record log or keep them.  He already know
> what will happen.

This is my opinion.  The default should be to remove the old log
(not to query).  I think this will be both the most common case
and the safest.  We can maybe add a command option for those who
wish not to do that.

Anyone else have an opinion?

> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 01:20, Michael Snyder<msnyder@vmware.com> wrote:
>> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>>> From: Hui Zhu <teawater@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:34:20 +0800
>>>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "gdb-patches@sourceware.org"
>>>> <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
>>>>
>>>> I think a warning is clear to most of people.
>>>>
>>>> And when he get this warning.  He can delete the record list and load
>>>> again.  He will lost nothing.
>>>>
>>>> If we delete the old record list, maybe he still need old record.  He
>>>> will lost something.
>>> Instead of a warning, how about asking the user whether to discard the
>>> old records or keep them?
>> My concern is, in most cases keeping them will be the wrong thing to do.
>> It will be very easy to create an internally inconsistent state, and
>> rather unlikely to create one that is *not* internally inconsistant.
>>
>> Think about it -- we will be concatenating two independent sets of
>> state changes, with no way of knowing that the actual machine state
>> at the end of one is the same as the machine state at the beginning
>> of the other.  When these are then replayed, their effect may have
>> little or nothing to do with what the real machine would actually do.
>>
>> To actually get this right, you would have to be *sure* that your
>> target machine is in the exact same state "now" (ie. when you do
>> the load command) as it was at the *beginning* of the previous
>> recording/debugging session.
>>
>> I would rather either make this a separate, "expert mode"
>> command, or better still, leave it for a future patch to extend
>> the basic (and safe) patch that we first accept.
>>
>>
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-09 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-01  7:31 Hui Zhu
2009-08-01  9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-01 19:20 ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-02  3:18   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-02  5:58     ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-03  4:12       ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-03 18:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-04  1:58           ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-04  2:07           ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-04 18:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-04 20:01               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-05  9:21                 ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-05 20:19                   ` [RFA/RFC] Add dump and load command to process record (file format etc) Michael Snyder
2009-08-06  2:17                     ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-12 14:11                       ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-12 15:16                         ` Tom Tromey
2009-08-12 22:38                           ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-16  0:04                             ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-05 21:23                   ` [RFA/RFC] Add dump and load command to process record and replay Michael Snyder
2009-08-06  3:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-06 14:16                       ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-07  3:27                         ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-07  3:29                           ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-07  3:34                             ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-07  4:06                               ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-07  8:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-07  9:53                                   ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-07 12:51                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-07 16:22                                       ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-07 17:42                                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-08 13:28                                     ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-10  3:09                                       ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2009-08-22 17:39                                         ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-23  1:14                                           ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-23 23:43                                           ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-24  8:20                                             ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-24 18:32                                               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-25  8:47                                                 ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-26  1:40                                                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-26  2:59                                                     ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-29 15:53                                                       ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-29 18:06                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-29 18:28                                                           ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-29 20:26                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-29 20:39                                                               ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-30  3:03                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-30  5:36                                                                   ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-30 23:40                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-31  7:10                                                                       ` Hui Zhu
2009-09-05  3:30                                                                         ` Michael Snyder
2009-09-06 16:29                                                                           ` Hui Zhu
2009-08-29 20:05                                                           ` Michael Snyder
2009-08-29 20:33                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-29 21:20                                                               ` Michael Snyder
2022-01-21  6:46 Simon Sobisch via Gdb-patches
2022-01-24  9:26 ` Hui Zhu via Gdb-patches
2022-04-13 12:21   ` Simon Sobisch via Gdb-patches

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