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From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>
To: Vladimir Prus <vladimir@codesourcery.com>
Cc: "gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com" <gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Implement -list-thread-groups.
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:10:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <491DD486.1070407@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811142218.17090.vladimir@codesourcery.com>

Vladimir Prus wrote:
> On Friday 14 November 2008 21:54:46 Michael Snyder wrote:
> 
>>>> I'm puzzled by this assert.
>>>> You don't think we'll ever want to specify both the pid and the thread?
>>> I think that makes no sense. If a thread is specified, then there's no
>>> possible use of 'pid'. Threads are globally numbered.
>> Even if it makes no sense in the sense that
>> it's not required, that doesn't necessarily make it
>> an error.  Suppose somebody specifies both the pid and
>> the thread?  What's the harm?  If they're inconsistent
>> (this pid does not contain this thread), THEN we'll
>> return an error.
> 
> I think it's better to make functions have as tight preconditions as possible. 
> In this case, passing both thread and pid does not serve any possible purpose,
> so it's likely that caller is doing this by mistake. It's best to assert 
> immediately, rather than spending time and code space verifying if those
> parameters are consistent.

I respect your opinion, but MI is not the only caller of this function.

 > Checking if a thread belongs to a process is not
> the part of this this function purpose.

It's input validation.  What you're doing is also input
validation, it's just imposing a more stringent requirement.

I feel that an assert is excessively stringent in this context.
An assert implies an internal gdb error.  These potentially
conflicting inputs could come about as a result of (foreseeable)
user input, rather than internal error.  Admittedly not any
user input that could be given now, but the CLI (or other
potential clients) could change.

I feel that if it's possible for these inputs to violate
the assert without actually reflecting an internally
inconsistant state, then the assert is too strong.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-14 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-12 21:01 Vladimir Prus
2008-11-14 11:46 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-11-14 11:58   ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-14 19:43   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-14 19:44     ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-14 21:45       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-15  4:58         ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-15  9:00           ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-15 16:10             ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2008-11-15 19:06               ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-16  8:22                 ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-16  8:22                   ` Vladimir Prus
     [not found]                     ` <29E9E827072C404C88A05DDC42B45997199E0503FF@PA-EXMBX14.vmware.com>
2008-11-17  9:42                       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-17 19:48                         ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-17 22:02                           ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-14 20:46     ` Pedro Alves
2008-11-16  1:14     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-11-16  8:20       ` Joel Brobecker

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