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From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>, Kevin Buettner <kevinb@redhat.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: PATCH: Add type_sprint() function to return type in string form
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:15:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EA5B0F2.5000908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030422192827.GA21651@nevyn.them.org>


>> You're kidding right?
>> 
>> The ARI indicates that all sprintf calls should be replaced with either 
>> snprintf or xasprintf.
>> 
>> Replacing sprintf with functions that are immune to buffer overrun 
>> problems, eliminates an entire class of bug.
>> 
>> Even something as simple as:
>> 	char buf[100000000];
>> 	sprintf (buf, _("a"));
>> is broken.
> 
> 
> No, I'm not kidding.  I've worked in computer security for about six
> years now and I still use sprintf.  It's simple, it's effective, and if
> you use it reasonably carefully, nothing will go wrong.

That also applies to snprintf and xasprintf.

> Not to mention that there are a number of buggy implementations of
> snprintf; they're slowly starting to fade from use, thank the lord, but
> you still see 'em now and again.

If GDB encounters a system with a buggy snprintf implementation, it 
should use the one in libiberty.  If libiberty's is buggy, some one 
should fix it.

> Of course, in those six years I've had this argument about ten times. 
> It seems to be about a 50/50 split between developers.

> And nothing involving translation is simple.

There are tradeoffs.

Things like the 80/20 rule (80% of bugs fixed with 20% of the effort); 
zero tolerance (complete elimination of risky coding pratices).

This was seen with Kevin's recent elimination of of complain that 
flushed out numerous -Wformat problems.

As for replacing the existing sprintf calls, like STREQ et.al., anyone 
wanting to do this will need to come up with a way of demonstrating that 
the translation was `probably' correct.  One trick is to only convert 
lines that GCOV identifies as being executed.

Andrew



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-22 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-18 22:24 Jason Molenda
2003-04-22  3:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-04-22 16:48   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-04-22 16:55     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-04-22 17:29       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-04-22 17:33         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-04-22 19:21           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-04-22 19:28             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-04-22 20:16               ` Andrew Cagney
2003-04-22 20:22                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-04-22 20:35                   ` Jason Molenda
2003-04-22 21:15               ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2003-04-22 19:55             ` Kevin Buettner
2003-04-23 14:23 ` Jason Molenda
2003-04-23 17:37   ` Andrew Cagney

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