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From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
To: Klee Dienes <klee@apple.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il>, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Compare contents when evaluating an array watchpoint
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DB49F6C.3060106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C66935B8-D9BB-11D6-9563-00039396EEB8@apple.com>

[suggest RFA rather than PATCH]

>> There's two phases to the process by which GDB handles watchpoints,  a "trigger" phase, where GDB causes itself to be stopped in any circumstance where the watchpoint might have been changed (either by hardware registers, page-protections, or single-stepping), and a "compare" phase, where it checks the value of the data being watched to see if it has actually changed.  My patch doesn't change the behavior of the trigger phase at all --- this phase has always set the trigger to watch the entire contents of the array.
>> 
>> My patch changes only the "compare" phase, by causing it to actually compare the contents of the array.  The one performance implication I can think of is that watching large arrays could be unpleasant on systems that can only do breakpoints via single-stepping (whereas before it would have been impossible, so I'm not overly concerned).

(Like Eli, I'm puzzled by the existing behavior :-)

Just to get this straight.  given:
	int a[10];
then:
	(gdb) watch a
sets up the hardware to look for a change in ``*a@10'' but then 
evaluates ``a'' and hence, while stopping when ever `a' changes, never 
trigger the watchpoint?

Would it be better to make it possible for the user to clearly 
differentiate between these two cases and specify any of:

	int a[10];
	int *b;
	(gdb) watch a
	(gdb) watch b
	(gdb) watch *b@10
	(gdb) watch *a@sizeof(a)

While the existing ``watch a'' might have annoying semantics, it would 
make its behavior consistent with C.  An array is converted to a pointer 
in an expression.  I'm not sure how well this would work with the 
expression evaluator though.

What ever the outcome, this desperatly needs a testcase.  Otherwize 
we're all going to keep spinning our weels wondering what the behavior 
was ment to be.

Andrew




> 
> On Monday, October 7, 2002, at 01:53 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Klee Dienes wrote:
> 
>> The following patch allows one to set watchpoints on arrays, and have
>> the watchpoint triggered if any element in the array changes.  Without
>> the patch, the C value_equal semantics causes the address of the array
>> to be checked for change, not the contents --- resulting in a
>> watchpoint that can never be hit.
>> 
>> This is particularly useful if one wants to do commands like watch
>> {char[80]} 0xfff0000, or similar, in order to watch an arbitrary region
>> of memory.
>> 
>> What will this do to hardware watchpoints on arrays/array elements?  On
>> many platforms, hardware watchpoints have size limitations, so large
>> arrays cannot be watched in their entirety.
>> 


> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-22  0:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-06  2:16 Klee Dienes
2002-10-06 22:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-06 23:12   ` Klee Dienes
2002-10-07  7:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-07 11:50       ` Klee Dienes
2002-10-09 12:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-21 17:44     ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2002-11-04 18:27       ` [RFA] " Klee Dienes
2002-11-18  9:52       ` [PATCH] " Jim Blandy
2003-01-08  0:46 ` Andrew Cagney

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