From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFA] Remote UDP support
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 19:56:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3CD9E563.3000704@cygnus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020509005348.GA14040@nevyn.them.org>
> I didn't see any of these conclusions when I looked. Oh well. None of
> them were in the thread with the original patch or the discussion about
> queuing it for 5.1.
Must be earlier. I'm also digging.
>> - It isn't at all reliable (rather than mostly reliable as across TCP or
>> serial). The entire ``T'' stop packet can be lost and neither GDB, nor
>> the target, would notice.
>
>
> Certainly. I also see a comment about the G packet needing to fit in
> one UDP packet, although I'm not 100% sure that's right.
I suspect the comment relates to a ``be nice'' to some TCP stacks, and
possibly to the now removed packet sequence number code (never worked).
>> - it wasn't necessary - there are micro tcp implementations around that
>> implement sufficient TCP for the remote protocol to work
>
>
> Still bigger than a polled UDP implementation, and much more
> complicated. Implementing a tiny UDP stack is simple! Sure, it isn't
> reliable at all; so use it on small networks and be careful :)
>> One theory put forward was to have GDB print a banner(6) sized warning
>> (and get confirmation) before accepting the option.
>
>
> I have to admit, I don't see the point. A big warning in the
> documentation, maybe, but such a confirmation query would drive me
> crazy if I actually needed to use this regularly.
That is the point! I don't want to be around when someone that (shock
horror :-) fails to read the manual and then complains that the GDB
remote protocol isn't reliable. What about a:
set remote
i-do-not-understand-gdb-remote-protocol-and-foolishly-think-udp-works-so-please-enable-it
on
option.
Have you tried running the testsuite across UDP?
enjoy,
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-05-09 2:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-05-08 16:26 Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-08 16:58 ` Michael Snyder
2002-05-08 17:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-08 21:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-08 17:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-08 17:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-08 19:56 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2002-05-08 20:01 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-09 11:37 ` Michael Snyder
2002-05-09 11:44 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-09 14:18 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-09 14:20 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-09 15:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-09 20:51 ` Jim Blandy
2002-05-09 21:28 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-05-09 21:45 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-09 22:32 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-05-10 8:18 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2002-05-10 13:54 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-10 13:57 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-05-10 14:07 ` Martin M. Hunt
2002-05-11 12:12 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-11 14:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-11 15:01 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-12 18:22 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-12 21:44 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-13 10:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-13 14:06 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-13 21:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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