From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20758 invoked by alias); 26 Mar 2002 17:49:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 20725 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2002 17:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.redhat.com) (216.138.202.10) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2002 17:49:55 -0000 Received: from cygnus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529C23EDA; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:48:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3CA0B459.2050609@cygnus.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:49:00 -0000 From: Andrew Cagney User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; NetBSD macppc; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020210 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Berlin Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com, rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Let dwarf2 CFI's execute_stack_op be used outside of CFI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2002-03/txt/msg00495.txt.bz2 [I'm sure Richard Stallman doesn't want to be dragged into such an exchange, however] Given there is currently a dispute over the origins of the file dwarf2cfi.c, I'm removing it from GDB. Once that dispute has been resolved, the file can, again be accepted. I should note that resolving this will likely take time - Jiri is currently uncontactable, so I'm going to to have to try to follow this up with his peers. sigh, Andrew > I also added my name to the top of the file, since in reality, it's based >> > > on code I sent Jiri. > >> > >> > I'd let Jiri make that decision. > >> No. >> This is not his decision to make. >> A lot of it is my code, unchanged (you can check the x86-64.org >> repository, for the huge change that replaced his code with mine) >> He never gave me any credit when he contributed it, for some reason, >> probably because I never asked for it. >> I've still got the email I sent him when he asked for the code, and i'm >> sure he'd be happy to confirm he used it. >> >> >From a legal standpoint, while the copyright is transfered to the FSF, the >> non-exclusive license they grant back to the contributors code should go >> to me as well as Jiri, not just to Jiri. This is part of of the contract of the >> copyright assignment with the FSF. >> Thus, in order to ensure this is possible (not that i plan on using the >> license for anything at the moment), i'm making sure it's clear that the >> code contributed was not soley Jiri's. >> So, that way, in the future, if I ever cared to license the code to >> someone else, or do something with it, I can without someone asserting >> it's only the FSF and Jiri's. > > > Please be aware, by the way, that if you don't accept the change to the > top of the file, i'll be forced to go bug RMS/the FSF about it, as I'm > sure they'd want the code correctly identified as well. > > I'm not asking that I be given credit for something I didn't do. Nor am I > attempting to diminish in any way the size,quantity, or quality, of > Jiri's contribution. I am simply requesting that it be properly > identified as a derivation of code I wrote. > > It's imperative that the lineage of code be correctly identified (in fact, > if GDB had a legal team, it's the first thing they'd do). In most cases, > you can determine it from the cvs annotate/the changelogs. However, for > new contributions, there is no history. Since I never sent the code > in question to gdb-patches, it also has no record there. > > I only care because I've been getting an increasing number of requests > from companies wanting to buy the source code to the C++ debugger I wrote > to replace GDB ( Of course, it uses a variant of the code in question to > read/execute frame ops). I blanket refuse such requests in the hopes that > they'll take the money and pay for GDB work instead, but it's something > i'd consider if times ever got really tough. If there is one thing > having three rabbits (rabbits can't learn through negative reinforcement. > i.e. reprimanding them after they have done something wrong does no good) > as pets has taught me, it's that it's much easier to make sure a situation > never happens, than it is to try to do something about it when it > occurs. > > It's not just me, either. If Jiri/SuSE wanted to license the code to > someone, he/they might accidently sign something saying he was the sole > author, which could make him/them liable, etc. > > In short, i'm simply trying to eliminate something that could come back to > bite me, or others, in the ass, later. > > If you really want proof it's my code, I can happily provide this as well. > > Since I know you get bogged down in mail, i'll give you till the end of > the month before I go bug RMS and the FSF about this. > > --Dan > > >