From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id 8IL0H1iV72ScTQ4AWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:15:36 -0400 Authentication-Results: simark.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=eLZ0xC/4; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 802F51E0C2; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (ip-8-43-85-97.sourceware.org [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 731151E092 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122333858C2A for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:15:34 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 122333858C2A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sourceware.org; s=default; t=1693422934; bh=v5EVeZrMjic/QX0dwc0477sGxXToa5GYU//JVo9ugeg=; h=Date:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From:Reply-To:From; b=eLZ0xC/4kuIVLooZm/s6UXhoQK50Yp5PTmywe8dp7ltuXr/dnnha80HtJh9gGJDDH OUqAIrKlIcKnEHV0PR/0TeKm6Q6xO3Gsa82FQb/peWzjmj7PqyI9mGqfGvS42paN/6 PxqZIGnqart6baayvGjjKLgkPk0Ha6OienpHyOa0= Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B13D3858D20 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:15:14 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 5B13D3858D20 Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-670-mxLyT6QgMqW1NiIatUG59A-1; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:15:10 -0400 X-MC-Unique: mxLyT6QgMqW1NiIatUG59A-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D31A805AF6; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f37-zws-nv (unknown [10.22.16.35]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 912AA2166B25; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:15:08 -0700 To: Tom Tromey Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Pedro Alves Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecate stabs Message-ID: <20230830121508.142ac7e9@f37-zws-nv> In-Reply-To: <87sf802zhi.fsf@tromey.com> References: <20230119174156.654402-1-tom@tromey.com> <0d183bc4-8c59-ac65-91c3-3477e7bb2546@palves.net> <87sf802zhi.fsf@tromey.com> Organization: Red Hat MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.6 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gdb-patches@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb-patches mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Kevin Buettner via Gdb-patches Reply-To: Kevin Buettner Errors-To: gdb-patches-bounces+public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb-patches" On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 11:48:09 -0600 Tom Tromey wrote: > >> I think it's time to deprecate stabs, and plan to remove all support > >> for them. Stabs are long since obsolete and are not really maintained > >> in gdb. GCC deprecated them in 12 and will remove them as well. > > Pedro> Meanwhile, half a year passed, and GCC 13 is out. > > Pedro> My position with stabs for years had been that, as long as GCC needs it for some ports, > Pedro> we should keep it. Since GCC has since removed support for stabs, I think we're now > Pedro> free to remove it too. > > Pedro> I think we should mark stabs deprecated for GDB 14. We can discuss more when to actually > Pedro> remove it, but IMO, the sooner we mark it deprecated, the sooner people will be aware of our > Pedro> intentions. FWIW, I do support removing it in GDB 15. > > It's maybe a little late for 14/15 now. > > I'm thinking I will send email to gdb@ and push the NEWS patch after the > 14 branch is made. That is, deprecate in 15 and remove in 16. I'm in favor of this timeline. Kevin