From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id H4ZcI/dC/F8ZFwAAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 07:22:15 -0500 Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8A0751EEEF; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 07:22:15 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from sourceware.org (unknown [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39D1B1E590 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 07:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E885385701F; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:22:14 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 8E885385701F DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NDuspjMMC1Ui5ypn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210111111027.GA1175365@embecosm.com> X-BeenThere: gdb-patches@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb-patches mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Mike Frysinger via Gdb-patches Reply-To: Mike Frysinger Cc: Tom Tromey , gdb-patches@sourceware.org Errors-To: gdb-patches-bounces@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb-patches" --NDuspjMMC1Ui5ypn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11 Jan 2021 11:10, Andrew Burgess wrote: > * Simon Marchi [2021-01-09 12:02:23 -0500]: > > On 2021-01-08 4:57 a.m., Andrew Burgess wrote: > > > * Tom Tromey [2021-01-07 13:57:14 -0700]: > > >=20 > > >> Mike> merging them into one causes extra pain due to conflicts. hav= ing sep > > >> Mike> arch ones alleviates that a little as you don't normally have = people > > >> Mike> working on the same arch at the same time. > > >> > > >> Mike> ideally we'd throw away these archaic ChangeLog files entirely= =2E they > > >> Mike> are a huge waste of time for everyone and would be much better= served > > >> Mike> writing proper git commit messages. it isn't the 80s/90s anym= ore. > > >> > > >> I'm +1 on that, but other maintainers like them, so we've been keepi= ng > > >> them around. > > >=20 > > > For the record I see them as a waste of time too. > >=20 > > Well, I'm not a maintainer of the sim project, but the maintainers of > > the sim project could decide to not do ChangeLogs anymore. >=20 > If sim/ was released as a separate project then sure, but while it's > released as part of GDB I'd rather we just copied the policies of > gdb/. it has the structure to be released by itself already. you can run `./src-release.sh sim` and get a usuable release archive. you can't do that for just any toplevel dir. this is because the project is completely usable w/out gdb and always has been. i don't think we've made sep releases for a very long time as people have been fine reusing the gdb cycle: it's on a reasonable periodic schedule, does all the release management/branching, sim changes have often been slow, and the userbase for only the sim is small. so i don't think saying "we have to make dedicated releases" just to "prove" that we're independent from gdb is correct. -mike --NDuspjMMC1Ui5ypn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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