From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6458 invoked by alias); 19 Nov 2018 16:09:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 6445 invoked by uid 89); 19 Nov 2018 16:09:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy= X-HELO: rock.gnat.com Received: from rock.gnat.com (HELO rock.gnat.com) (205.232.38.15) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:09:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filtered-rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A04056070; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rock.gnat.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rock.gnat.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kNiDsXK907Ds; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from joel.gnat.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DA35606D; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by joel.gnat.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4ACDB849F0; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:09:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:09:00 -0000 From: Joel Brobecker To: John Darrington Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] GDB: S12Z: Add assertion Message-ID: <20181119160941.GB3276@adacore.com> References: <20181112091721.28040-1-john@darrington.wattle.id.au> <20181117145928.726522e6@pinnacle.lan> <20181118092258.wmiltm7lfzj2cvnw@jocasta.intra> <20181118114242.675f5f14@pinnacle.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181118114242.675f5f14@pinnacle.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-SW-Source: 2018-11/txt/msg00289.txt.bz2 Hey John, To add to what Kevin said, we've been discussing this topic many times. I am pretty sure most people would be very happy to be getting rid of ChangeLog entries. I think the main issue, now, is to automate their generation when producing the source packages and releases; this is because we are a GNU project, and we are expected to allow people without the git repository to have a sense of the changes that were made. I think that if we have a process in place that automates this, we should be OK to replace the ChangeLog files by data extracted from the revision logs. What we need, at this point, is someone sufficiently motivated to put in place this automatic generation. We might also need a bit of development work on the hooks to validate the revision log's format and confirm that it always contains a ChangeLog entry in a format we can understand so we can always extract it (I can take care of that part once we have an agreement on the process). -- Joel