From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29569 invoked by alias); 24 Mar 2015 06:15:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 29530 invoked by uid 89); 24 Mar 2015 06:15:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-User: qpsmtpd, 2 recipients X-HELO: smtp.gentoo.org Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (HELO smtp.gentoo.org) (140.211.166.183) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 06:15:03 +0000 Received: from vapier (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4AAC3409DC; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 06:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 06:15:00 -0000 From: Mike Frysinger To: Joel Brobecker Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Binutils , Doug Evans Subject: Re: [PATCH] update automake version to 1.11.6 Message-ID: <20150324061501.GD10761@vapier> Mail-Followup-To: Joel Brobecker , gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Binutils , Doug Evans References: <20150311094134.GE9455@vapier> <1426310999-13103-1-git-send-email-vapier@gentoo.org> <20150319120631.GB4884@adacore.com> <20150319230427.GI4128@vapier> <20150321195953.GA24181@vapier> <20150323124600.GC5438@adacore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150323124600.GC5438@adacore.com> X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2015-03/txt/msg00780.txt.bz2 --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 1233 On 23 Mar 2015 05:46, Joel Brobecker wrote: > > > i don't have a problem with requiring people to use the same exact > > version. > > > i do think that requiring them to build/install by hand is > > > unreasonable. it's pretty rare (by design) for projects to do this > > > sort of thing (commit the generated autotools), so it's pretty rare > > > for this to be an issue, so it's pretty rare for people to be > > > required to manage this. it's a throw back to pre-distro days when > > > people were used to building/install software themselves, and it's > > > unnecessary friction for new people to get into the development > > > process today. death by a thousand cuts and all that. > >=20 > > It's only a barrier for people who need to change the configure.ac or > > Makefile.am files, which is not most developers. >=20 > Agreed. i hit it on every machine i want to develop on, and i don't have the luxury= of=20 running Gentoo on every system > Also, I don't think that building autoconf and automake once every > few years, and then using that to generate the files is really that > much of a barrier. multiplied by every machine you develop on, and every user that wants to ma= ke=20 their own contribution here -mike --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-length: 819 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVEQDlAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBEQYP/0teLsky5YGEGLJJzeqSye6p hNalnUnlAa0FNq3l6giSDkrepVv2lPWgci/0UvoIvUF5vwj8DSVsW+XmZGaq/fwf 4lKMHf/0rAC4gAP4xTBvTTiUyo0ghyGPuCAEZwU4O5LUWVrzsoUmzOcy6fWivQxa LE6vr4oXfMXo8LPFIc6eLAbOnXPo2YrPdGA+KwwyejixWvGBrD5T6y0x+nspxTQ0 g+aakLSsxmJpCexbDD3qqBcjaN8v+XPYafleW3uJJJP1xDdGSkZiNeugoRmvitVQ o90Umr0sQ2k4fBWM4yj27Jp0L+msuC18DJrV4xUTznFLIlptiC+DnFSRftb0JoGo cse4gSE3ys59ryQ2aAfnDIuVNmv3IW7Ya+s/OL92h3tb5NTmazh/1qsfKpstHHO/ 8sogwDyOenuVRvkuMmi19nh8kwXxY7bgfMuES5sRzWK+2oCZ8h0UMFuYy8zJQWhO z6Nd40noD10iPFz4PV+K2mKEBILBlcqij+YNV+Fp1rgAMsChymkL1BHFJAEqE2Im jKmUoaaiEKaf54DDrk9+KgizqIH6mMLfX1XWE49ct0XL7jTkKv0z/bSNtUM0g4eP dFGRGlNsgdj98T/63c0DpCxq2trBLsK+8hAdBiEnB54HKTOy4KEGUeUlNVSZSEXa +cilrQznlw+zl2UyBdwf =7tkQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ--