From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20296 invoked by alias); 19 Mar 2015 23:04:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 20275 invoked by uid 89); 19 Mar 2015 23:04:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-User: qpsmtpd, 2 recipients X-HELO: smtp.gentoo.org Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (HELO smtp.gentoo.org) (140.211.166.183) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 23:04:30 +0000 Received: from vapier (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A55D34066C; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 23:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 23:04:00 -0000 From: Mike Frysinger To: Doug Evans Cc: Joel Brobecker , Binutils , gdb-patches Subject: Re: [PATCH] update automake version to 1.11.6 Message-ID: <20150319230427.GI4128@vapier> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Evans , Joel Brobecker , Binutils , gdb-patches References: <20150311094134.GE9455@vapier> <1426310999-13103-1-git-send-email-vapier@gentoo.org> <20150319120631.GB4884@adacore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2015-03/txt/msg00606.txt.bz2 --gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 2063 On 19 Mar 2015 15:59, Doug Evans wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Joel Brobecker wrote: > >> Debian stable (wheezy) and newer only have 1.11.6. > >> Ubuntu Trusty and newer only have 1.11.6. > >> Gentoo dropped <=3D1.11.5 2 years ago. > >> Fedora R17 was the last one to offer 1.11.x (it was 1.11.6). > >> Centos 7 doesn't offer any 1.11.x version. > >> OpenSUSE 12.2 was the last one to offer 1.11.x. > >> Arch Linux dropped 1.11.x 3 years ago. > >> Mageia 2 was the last one to offer 1.11.x. > >> > >> So anyone who readily has access to automake 1.11.[0-5] is using a two > >> year old distro that is no longer supported. Lets use 1.11.6 as it's > >> the only 1.11.x version that is easily available. > >> > >> 2015-03-14 Mike Frysinger > >> > >> * README-maintainer-mode: Update automake to 1.11.6. > > > > FWIW, I tend to avoid using the auto-tools already installed, because > > I don't know what patches they might contain. Those patches can result > > in small differences which inexplicably show up when you regenerate > > some files after making some modifications. That's why I rebuilt > > them all from source, and use them when regenerating files. > > > > All in all, I'm not against switching to 1.11.6 but we should then > > regenerate all affected files now, and I would prefer it if that was > > done using an unmodified release rather than one that might have been > > modified by the distro. >=20 > +1 on avoiding distro releases. if we follow this logic, why aren't autotools part of the repo, either dire= ctly=20 (like readline) or indirectly (git submodules) ? requiring every developer= to=20 independently correctly download&build&install a custom version of autotool= s in=20 their system is, frankly, unreasonable. in Gentoo i've made it dirt simple for people -- older versions of autoconf= are=20 available to emerge in parallel and you can select via `autoconf-2.64` or b= y=20 exporting WANT_AUTOCONF=3D2.64. but i don't think making Gentoo a requirem= ent=20 would be approved :D. -mike --gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-length: 819 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVC1X7AAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBojUP/jyzekpvIitn1GdM+piCO7SJ AzFtmGCppVD659AhKdIJGqvFvrn5tqvTB/1yvVBxt01hJrilP7yEkOL+0hyb87vL alppT5Hcn6xStqYEi21JDVG9Vcdvp8qAZW8SZcaAvus552Eg36chqn/+oGkH7b5C eou65u75l78llqSfpiL6D42hLJGaiqhB6cKXmetfoHi2DVqRO5WlMC34VzSqQ0wx DAVPxIv9bXQii6VpFUlGV58PII8g8WIbXC5zpKpiiC0jxZhMyh673XeK5MGdUhx6 SWB6XO+gOwGcgIlf2eu2EHDxkw2stPAGmbfUDixqnKLl+abmAOhJaeYZjOFvpHtW A6g4JR/FSTujC8r1nONGdFztocmaSrBvghMd8I7CbO4Ln4syqIk2OV72lrIdXbEY CUDLrlvMReyBR9fs8sNNDxke9kgW/mgXHyfl7XtZ3t2odjRKbvmIWhT6p4B1bQXZ b3rZmKdDoDotiJhi3/eoh2FgULD5JDzUwjJxbRqu0QwooXP8aHbDXyMvmIOJhs3S 85b6gMNgBFvySbqExjlMs1iIvsdgQ3AOxw1cd74YxFCWV+c5rkMV3nfRwmbGfLYG BSmUeGOKRhFCaXGEzjkjoU3u+vwucL48YbX5+tEY+XMLaKkS6hAcwYxuPTUEkf88 A2UjwifwyLc/u4z4bQ9o =/jM3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gTY1JhLGodeuSBqf--