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From: Gary Benson <gbenson@redhat.com>
To: Stan Shebs <stanshebs@earthlink.net>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>,
	       Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
	Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>,
	       gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Demangler crash handler
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 13:18:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140522131756.GC15598@blade.nx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <537BA194.904@earthlink.net>

Stan Shebs wrote:
> My memory may be playing tricks on me, but once upon a time it
> seemed like the demangler was the most reliable part of the mixed
> bag that was C++ debugging - segfaults were pretty much unheard of.
> So it's a little strange to me that it's now become so troublesome
> that it needs to be wrapped, or has been suggested, to be run in a
> different process(!), and it reinforces Mark K's original point
> about signal catchers masking more serious problems.

Apart from the ones the fuzzer found, the recent crashes [1] all seem
to have C++11 features, specifically, lambdas or lvalue references or
both.  My suspicion is that these bugs are being shaken out as C++11
code becomes more widespread and/or people are doing more complicated
things with it.

> Complicated or not, the demangler is one of the most algorithmically
> predictable components of GDB, and it is very easy to test
> comprehensively; no races, no arcane target dependencies, textual
> input and output.

For sure, but somebody needs to write those tests, and that somebody
needs 1) a deep knowledge of C++, including C++11, 2) a deep knowledge
of the mangling scheme, and 3) the time and inclination to sit down
and compile an extensive test suite.  I don't know anybody with three
out of three.

Thanks,
Gary

-- 
[1] https://github.com/gbenson/binutils-gdb/blob/demangler/segfault-test.tests


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-22 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-09 10:07 Gary Benson
2014-05-09 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Gary Benson
2014-05-09 10:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Gary Benson
2014-05-09 11:20 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Mark Kettenis
2014-05-09 15:33   ` Gary Benson
2014-05-11  5:17     ` Doug Evans
2014-05-13 10:20       ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:29         ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-14 13:07           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:39         ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-14  9:15           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-11 20:23     ` Mark Kettenis
2014-05-13 10:21       ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 16:05         ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 13:24           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-15 14:07             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 14:28               ` Gary Benson
2014-05-15 15:25                 ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-16 11:06             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-10 20:55   ` Florian Weimer
2014-05-11  5:10     ` Doug Evans
2014-05-13 10:22     ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 18:22       ` Florian Weimer
2014-05-13 18:42         ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-13 19:16           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:19             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-14  9:11               ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:20           ` Florian Weimer
2014-05-13 19:22             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-13 19:22         ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:36           ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-14  9:13             ` Gary Benson
2014-05-14 14:18     ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-14 16:08       ` Andrew Burgess
2014-05-14 18:32         ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 13:25           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-15 16:01             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 13:27       ` Gary Benson
2014-05-20 17:05       ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-20 18:40         ` Stan Shebs
2014-05-20 19:36           ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-20 20:23             ` Joel Brobecker
2014-05-22 12:56               ` Gary Benson
2014-05-22 13:09                 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-05-22 14:13                 ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-22 15:57                   ` Gary Benson
2014-05-22 13:18           ` Gary Benson [this message]
2014-05-22 14:09         ` Gary Benson
2014-05-22 14:40           ` Mark Kettenis
2014-05-22 20:42             ` Gary Benson

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