From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15317 invoked by alias); 20 May 2014 20:23:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 15298 invoked by uid 89); 20 May 2014 20:23:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: rock.gnat.com Received: from rock.gnat.com (HELO rock.gnat.com) (205.232.38.15) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Tue, 20 May 2014 20:23:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filtered-rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF831161EC; Tue, 20 May 2014 16:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.gnat.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rock.gnat.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kcn93tpJPJCA; Tue, 20 May 2014 16:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from joel.gnat.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A79116186; Tue, 20 May 2014 16:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by joel.gnat.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0CFAA43848; Tue, 20 May 2014 13:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 20:23:00 -0000 From: Joel Brobecker To: Tom Tromey Cc: Stan Shebs , gdb-patches@sourceware.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Demangler crash handler Message-ID: <20140520202311.GK22822@adacore.com> References: <20140509100656.GA4760@blade.nx> <201405091120.s49BKO1f010622@glazunov.sibelius.xs4all.nl> <87fvkhjqvs.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <53737737.2030901@redhat.com> <87ppj8s7my.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> <537BA194.904@earthlink.net> <87tx8kqm3o.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87tx8kqm3o.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SW-Source: 2014-05/txt/msg00444.txt.bz2 > I realize there is an attractive quality to the "suffering is good for > us" idea. It appeals to my inner spartan. However, I disagree very > strongly with this. Having been on the receiving end of this kind of logic, I agree with Tom - quite strongly too, in fact. As a user, I do not want to be held hostage, especially when there is no workaround. If the proposed solution brings no noticeable harm for our users in the situation where things are working as expected, I think we should consider it. And to help mitigating the fears that we would be hiding bugs, we can perhaps find a middle-ground; for instance, making sure that we print a really verbose error message. -- Joel