From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30105 invoked by alias); 26 Mar 2013 19:35:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 30054 invoked by uid 89); 26 Mar 2013 19:35:32 -0000 X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_W,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from anubis.se.axis.com (HELO anubis.se.axis.com) (195.60.68.12) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.84/v0.84-167-ge50287c) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:35:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anubis.se.axis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C7719F46; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from anubis.se.axis.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (anubis.se.axis.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id m0oMoIYCwQin; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from seth.se.axis.com (seth.se.axis.com [10.0.2.172]) by anubis.se.axis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7870A19F7C; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from ignucius.se.axis.com (ignucius.se.axis.com [10.88.21.50]) by seth.se.axis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7633A3E46F; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from ignucius.se.axis.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ignucius.se.axis.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Debian-2woody1) with ESMTP id r2QJZPHI017301; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:25 +0100 Received: (from hp@localhost) by ignucius.se.axis.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Debian-2woody1) id r2QJZOXc017297; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:24 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:50:00 -0000 Message-Id: <201303261935.r2QJZOXc017297@ignucius.se.axis.com> From: Hans-Peter Nilsson To: vapier@gentoo.org CC: joel.sherrill@oarcorp.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org In-reply-to: <201303261415.19076.vapier@gentoo.org> (message from Mike Frysinger on Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:15:17 +0100) Subject: Re: Recent simulator patches broke many sims MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-SW-Source: 2013-03/txt/msg00985.txt.bz2 > From: Mike Frysinger > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:15:17 +0100 > On Tuesday 26 March 2013 13:12:38 Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote: > i see it the other way. doing `make check` for all these > packages work w/out the user having to dig into esoteric tools > (that often times lack documentation, or any real semblance of > an entry point). > > for binutils/gcc/etc..., there are plenty of > compile/link/etc... tests that can be done without needing to > know about a board. the sim is special in that testing it > requires running code, Thinking you're good without running any runnnable tests? I guess we have to agree to disagree here. > so it's entirely reasonable for the > default `make check` to setup a state where the tests actually > work. You know, if someone went to do the work to provide a default (overridable) target-board for all cross *-elf et al targets at the toplevel, I wouldn't mind. I'll just add that you're wrong if you think gcc testing without *running* the runnable tests is to be taken seriously (with very few exceptions). I haven't ran gdb tests recently enough to remember it, but... brgds, H-P