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From: "Ulrich Weigand" <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
To: dan@codesourcery.com (Daniel Jacobowitz)
Cc: ken@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Ken Werner),
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
	       brobecker@adacore.com (Joel Brobecker)
Subject: Re: [patch] fix pre-/post- in-/decrement
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 23:25:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201010042324.o94NOp3Y021755@d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101004225938.GZ6985@caradoc.them.org> from "Daniel Jacobowitz" at Oct 04, 2010 06:59:38 PM

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:57:47PM +0200, Ulrich Weigand wrote:
> > It would appear that even the current behavior, as shown in your trace,
> > already contains an unnecessary load.  There should be no need to perform
> > a memory read to evaluate "print *$p = 1".
> 
> In fact, we rely on this unintuitive behavior.  If you write to any
> kind of memory other than RAM, then it's not possible for GDB to
> predict what value was actually written.  Suppose you write a value to
> ROM with "print"; GDB should show the old value, to reflect that the
> variable was not modified.

Well, this behavior clearly seems an accident in the current code;
you get this only if the target of the assignment happened to be
a lazy value before value_assign.  For example, while you do get
the extra read after:
   print *$p = 1
you get *no* extra read after:
   print *$p += 1

This seems inconsistent, at the very least.

In any case, I'm wondering a bit why you prefer this behavior; this
seems to have quite unexpected consequences to me:

- If you execute "set *$p = *$q = 0" and the write to *$q fails,
  do you really expect *$p to be set to the old value of *$q
  instead of to 0?

- If *$p is a memory-mapped register where reading and writing have
  different effects, should assigning to *$p really trigger *both*
  a write and a read cycle, even though a C assignment wouldn't?

- In the case you refer to where writing to ROM fails, shouldn't
  we actually get an error thrown anyway?  Writing to an unmapped
  address does that as well ...

Bye,
Ulrich

-- 
  Dr. Ulrich Weigand
  GNU Toolchain for Linux on System z and Cell BE
  Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com


  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-04 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-17 12:58 [patch] GNU vector unop support Ken Werner
2010-09-28 16:04 ` Ken Werner
     [not found] ` <20100930185634.GC6213@adacore.com>
2010-10-01 17:45   ` [patch] fix pre-/post- in-/decrement Ken Werner
2010-10-04 13:01     ` Ulrich Weigand
2010-10-04 19:47       ` Ken Werner
2010-10-04 20:45         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-10-04 21:58           ` Ulrich Weigand
2010-10-04 22:59             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-10-04 23:25               ` Ulrich Weigand [this message]
2010-10-05  1:17                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-10-05 13:28                   ` Ulrich Weigand
2010-10-05 13:42                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-10-06 18:59                       ` [rfc] Fix value_assign return value (Re: [patch] fix pre-/post- in-/decrement) Ulrich Weigand
2010-10-26 13:42                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-12-01 16:51                           ` Ulrich Weigand
2010-10-06 20:55                       ` [patch] fix pre-/post- in-/decrement Vladimir Prus
2010-10-07 12:38         ` Ken Werner
2010-10-12 23:00           ` Tom Tromey
2010-10-13  8:45             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-13  9:23             ` Ken Werner
2010-10-13 16:07               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-10-13 19:01               ` Tom Tromey
2010-10-19  7:38                 ` Ken Werner
2010-11-02  8:23                   ` Ken Werner
2010-11-02 20:31                   ` Tom Tromey
2010-11-03 13:52                     ` Ken Werner
2010-10-04 20:52   ` [patch] GNU vector unop support Ken Werner
2010-10-06 23:27     ` Joel Brobecker
2010-10-07 16:23       ` Ken Werner
2010-11-03 14:07       ` Ken Werner

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