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From: Vladimir Prus <vladimir@codesourcery.com>
To: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [MI/RFC] Emit ^running via observer.
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:41:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200806280949.09304.vladimir@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18533.33379.962529.54094@kahikatea.snap.net.nz>

On Saturday 28 June 2008 04:14:27 Nick Roberts wrote:
>  > > mi-async.exp is a test for async mode, so is not expected to pass in sync
>  > > mode.
>  > 
>  > That's the question -- what about this test is specific to async mode?
> 
> Async mode decouples the output from the input.  This allows a CLI command that
> executes the inferior to (indirectly) generate MI output.  That's why I was
> interested in async mode and that's what this test is for.  The work has
> actually been done for more general reasons, such as non-stop mode.  I think
> the MI output is just a fortunate side-effect.

Err, async mode does one thing -- allows commands to be processed while inferiour
is still running. Unless you explicitly make use of this functionality, there's
no difference from sync mode. (Of course, there's a bunch of checks for 
target_can_async_p in GDB code, so some difference in output is possible, but
in theory there should be none). I don't know what you mean by decoupling output
from the input -- for example, then *running notification is emitted for CLI
just fine, and this does not require async mode.

>  >...
>  > > It's not a problem if async mode becomes the default, which is my
>  > > understanding.  
>  > 
>  > Not mine, unfortunately. We can't even make all target always have at least
>  > one element in thread list -- which is much simpler change.
> 
> Maybe that's a requirement of non-stop mode but I'm not sure that this is
> relevant here, i.e. with just async mode.

I meant relative complexity of things. Making the thread list always have a single thread 
is relatively straight-forward, but still, making this happen for 
*all* targets is going to take lots of time. Adding async support for a target
is considerably harder -- as linux-nat.c changes clearly demonstrate. Therefore, 
I don't expect that GDB will support async on a wide set of targets anytime soon.

- Volodya


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-28  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-13 22:01 Vladimir Prus
2008-06-20  6:53 ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-25 15:04   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-06-26 13:33     ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-26 18:54       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-06-26 19:34         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-28 11:34           ` Vladimir Prus
2008-06-28 16:35             ` Vladimir Prus
2008-06-27  6:58         ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-27 11:58           ` Vladimir Prus
2008-06-28  5:49             ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-28  9:41               ` Vladimir Prus [this message]
2008-06-28 10:16                 ` Nick Roberts
2008-06-28 10:44                   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-06-29  2:40                     ` Nick Roberts

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