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From: "Ulrich Weigand" <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
To: drow@false.org (Daniel Jacobowitz)
Cc: emi-suzuki@tjsys.co.jp (Emi SUZUKI), gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [rfc] [2/4] SPU overlay support: The SPU target part
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 19:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705111909.l4BJ9SKO022937@d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070511173213.GC22529@caradoc.them.org> from "Daniel Jacobowitz" at May 11, 2007 01:32:13 PM

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:20:05AM +0200, Ulrich Weigand wrote:
> > This makes it possible to use the remaining slots to hold additional
> > information needed to handle return jumps crossing an overlay 
> > boundary.  In those cases, the slots are set up to hold:
> >   [0] Return stub entry point in the overlay manager
> >   [1] Partition number of the overlay section to be returned to
> >   [2] Actual return address in the (restored) overlay section
> 
> Clever.  Could we have a comment about this in GDB somewhere?
> Apologies if there was one; I didn't see it.

Sure, I'll add a comment.

> > > This is clever, but kind of sneaky.  We show signal return trampolines
> > > and dummy call trampolines, so I'm not sure why it's necessary to
> > > hide overlay return stubs.  Do you think this is more useful than
> > > confusing?
> > 
> > Both signal return and dummy call trampolines are entities the
> > user actually knows about and wants to see.  The overlay mechanism
> > is supposed to be fully transparent to the user; I'd compare the
> > overlay call and return stubs to things like PLT stubs in ELF
> > -- we don't show those either.
> 
> Well, they never end up on the stack.  We would if they did.  But this
> isn't a big issue to me; I'd be very confused if I stepi'd a
> return instruction and ended up somewhere other than the function
> listed in the backtrace, but my use of GDB is probably not typical.

The return stub isn't on the stack either.  We'd have to manufacture
an extra zero-sized stack frame between caller and callee, with 
special unwind rules to be able to continue the backtrace.  I guess
this would be possible somehow, but I still don't see that this would
provide any benefit to most users ...

Bye,
Ulrich

-- 
  Dr. Ulrich Weigand
  GNU Toolchain for Linux on System z and Cell BE
  Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-11 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-07 22:26 Ulrich Weigand
2007-05-08  8:10 ` Emi SUZUKI
2007-05-08 12:40   ` Ulrich Weigand
2007-05-10 21:55     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-05-10 22:20       ` Ulrich Weigand
2007-05-11 17:32         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-05-11 19:09           ` Ulrich Weigand [this message]
2007-05-11 19:33             ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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