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From: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
To: drow@false.org
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add expat to the GDB sources
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607242248.k6OMmp1X029286@elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060724223413.GA20726@nevyn.them.org> (message from Daniel 	Jacobowitz on Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:34:13 -0400)

> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:34:13 -0400
> From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
> 
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 12:29:28AM +0200, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > > But, where does this philosophy end?  Are you *really* advocating that
> > > every shipping package should include the source code of any libraries
> > > that they use?  So gdb should also include ncurses?
> > 
> > The philosophy has always been that one should be able to build a GNU
> > toolchain without any external dependencies, to be able to bootstrap
> > into a situation wher you can use the toolchain to build other Free
> > Software.
> 
> When was the last time you tried to build GCC?  Even just building it
> has pretty hefty requirements:
> 
>   http://gcc.gnu.org/install/prerequisites.html
> 
> GMP/MPFR and zip fill the same sort of role that expat and readline
> would.  The GNU Make version requirement also often needs to be
> manually met by users wanting to build GCC - lots of systems don't have
> an adequate Make for the GCC build system.

Where do you think my frstration about external dependencies comes
from ;-).  However, GCC will build fine without most of those
packages: without GMP/MPFR you won't get gfortran, and without zip you
won't get gjc/libjava.  But at least you can still build the C
compiler, which you can then use to build the other dependencies.

I think the GNU Make requirements are a serious mistake by the GCC
developers.

Translated to GDB this would mean that without expat you'd still get a
usable gdb, but loose goodies like the new flash support (which isn't
terribly useful for a native gdb anyway).


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-24 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-18 13:40 Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-18 13:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-21  0:35   ` Joel Brobecker
2006-07-21  0:39     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-21  0:45       ` Joel Brobecker
2006-07-23 21:52   ` Mark Kettenis
2006-07-23 22:03     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-23 22:40 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-23 22:57   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-23 23:13     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-24  0:17       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-23 23:15     ` Pedro Alves
2006-07-23 23:18   ` Mark Kettenis
2006-07-24  0:15     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24  6:20     ` Joel Brobecker
2006-07-24 15:30       ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-24 15:50         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24 16:37           ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-24 21:58             ` Mark Kettenis
2006-07-24 19:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-24 19:52             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24 20:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-24 20:36                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24 15:24     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-24 19:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-24 19:51         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24 20:22           ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-24 20:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-07-24 20:43             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24 21:42             ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-24 22:18               ` DJ Delorie
2006-07-24 22:29               ` Mark Kettenis
2006-07-24 22:34                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24 22:37                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-25  0:36                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-24 22:49                   ` Mark Kettenis [this message]
2006-07-24 23:41                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-25  0:47                 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-31 17:33                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-31 20:24                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-31 20:39                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-07-31 21:33                     ` Mark Kettenis
2006-08-01  0:42                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-08-01  1:01                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-07-24 22:08       ` Mark Kettenis

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