From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
To: Mark Kettenis <kettenis@chello.nl>
Cc: mec.gnu@mindspring.com, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch] configure.in: revert osf5.1 no-noncurses special case
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 16:49:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040507164914.GB24613@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200405071619.i47GJ5S4065835@elgar.kettenis.dyndns.org>
On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 06:19:05PM +0200, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:33:38 -0400
> From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
>
> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:10:48AM -0400, Michael Chastain wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > Yeah, I was unhappy about reverting the patch, but in the long run,
> > the problem is not really specific to osf5.1, so it's better to
> > solve the real problem.
> >
> > > 4. Unly use ncurses if the user passes --with-ncurses to configure.
> >
> > I prefer this solution the best. We've had similar requests for
> > readline from people who want to use the system readline library
> > or their own readline library rather than our bundled readline.
> > And this way a clueful user has the maximum usability, while a
> > no-customization user has a good chance of getting a working gdb
> > and even a gdbtui.
>
> I think this is a bad idea. Remember, there's this huge base of
> installed systems where ncurses is the default library and/or installed
> in a system directory. Why penalize them?
>
> Most of the open source systems use ncurses as the native curses
> libraries. On such systems, ncurses is either installed as libncurses
> (OpenBSD) or there is a link from libcurses to libcurses (FreeBSD,
> Debian GNU/Linux). The headers are treated in a similar way. I'm
> certainly not proposing to detect whether libcurses is actually
> libncurses, and refuse to use libcurses in that case. I'm just
> proposing to search for libcurses and ncurses.h only if --with-ncurses
> is specified.
>
> I really doubt that there are really any systems out there where
> ncurses is installed in a system directory alongside with the native
> curses library where the two are not one and the same. If there are
> such systems out there, we'd only penalize them if the native curses
> library is somehow broken.
I would have expected there to be such systems. Maybe there aren't.
In any case, ncurses is the GNU curses library, so I still think it's
appropriate to prefer it.
> It's broken in my book too, but it's very likely that you'll end up in
> that situation if you install GCC and ncurses using
>
> ./configure && make && make install
>
> on almost any UNIX system.
At which point it's the user's responsibility to set LDFLAGS, IMO.
Note that if you do that with ncurses, you'll probably get a shared
library in a non-system directory, so this is just the beginning of
your problems.
--
Daniel Jacobowitz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-07 16:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-07 15:10 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-05-07 15:33 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-05-07 16:19 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-05-07 16:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2004-05-07 15:51 ` Andrew Cagney
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-08 0:11 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-05-08 15:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-05-07 17:05 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-05-07 15:52 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-05-07 16:23 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-05-07 16:45 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-05-01 22:27 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-05-07 13:50 ` Mark Kettenis
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