From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19119 invoked by alias); 29 Sep 2002 19:51:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 19105 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 19:51:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO crack.them.org) (65.125.64.184) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 19:51:10 -0000 Received: from nevyn.them.org ([66.93.61.169] ident=mail) by crack.them.org with asmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17vl1c-0007WH-00; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:50:49 -0500 Received: from drow by nevyn.them.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17vk62-0001XQ-00; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:51:18 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:51:00 -0000 From: Daniel Jacobowitz To: Andrew Cagney Cc: Nathanael Nerode , gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com, binutils@sources.redhat.com, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: top level: make more dependencies explicit Message-ID: <20020929195118.GA5786@nevyn.them.org> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Cagney , Nathanael Nerode , gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com, binutils@sources.redhat.com, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org References: <20020929165232.GA27545@doctormoo.dyndns.org> <3D9733C2.2010405@redhat.com> <20020929172608.GA27678@doctormoo.dyndns.org> <3D973C44.6090601@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D973C44.6090601@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-SW-Source: 2002-09/txt/msg00722.txt.bz2 On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 01:45:40PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 01:09:22PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote: > > > >>Nathanael, > >> > >>FYI, I'm about to revert this change: > >> > >>2002-09-25 Nathanael Nerode > >> > >> * Makefile.tpl: Make subsituted variables more autoconfy. > >> * Makefile.in: Regenerate. > >> * configure: Make seds more autoconfy. > >> > >>It breaks both the GDB and BINUITLS snapshot processes. Details to > >>follow, however, suggest a short pause. > > > >Uh... yuck. > > > >Are there some details on the GDB and BINUTILS snapshot processes so that > >I can fix *them*? This change is going to happen eventually, even if > >it's reverted for now; the Makefile changes will be necessary for > >autoonfiscation. > > > >Wait, let me look at Makefile.in... > > > >Ewwwww. The taz rules use Makefile.in *as a Makefile*. > >That's the root of the problem, isn't it? Incidentally, that's > >disgusting. :-) > > Well I think ``SHELL = @config_shell@'' is ugly :-) Why can't the > configury code edit ``s/^SHELL =.*/SHELL = $.../''. Because that's disgusting? Having something which doesn't look like a configury-overridden variable be edited in configure is very fragile. > The mechanism is very old (it pre-dates me as GDB release engineer). > Changing it is going to involve updates to many things - snapshot > scripts, release process doco, .... so won't happen overnight. GCC has had a separate script to make releases for years and years. It's time GDB and Binutils did the same. -- Daniel Jacobowitz MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer