From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25860 invoked by alias); 29 Sep 2002 19:58:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 25795 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 19:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc01.attbi.com) (204.127.202.61) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 19:58:47 -0000 Received: from lucon.org ([12.234.88.146]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020929195846.CTLE6431.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@lucon.org>; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 19:58:46 +0000 Received: by lucon.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 594162C59F; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:58:00 -0000 From: "H. J. Lu" To: Andrew Cagney , Nathanael Nerode , gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com, binutils@sources.redhat.com, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: top level: make more dependencies explicit Message-ID: <20020929125845.A8761@lucon.org> References: <20020929165232.GA27545@doctormoo.dyndns.org> <3D9733C2.2010405@redhat.com> <20020929172608.GA27678@doctormoo.dyndns.org> <3D973C44.6090601@redhat.com> <20020929195118.GA5786@nevyn.them.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020929195118.GA5786@nevyn.them.org>; from drow@mvista.com on Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 03:51:18PM -0400 X-SW-Source: 2002-09/txt/msg00724.txt.bz2 On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 03:51:18PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 01:45:40PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote: > > >On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 01:09:22PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote: > > > > > >>Nathanael, > > >> > > >>FYI, I'm about to revert this change: > > >> > > >>2002-09-25 Nathanael Nerode > > >> > > >> * Makefile.tpl: Make subsituted variables more autoconfy. > > >> * Makefile.in: Regenerate. > > >> * configure: Make seds more autoconfy. > > >> > > >>It breaks both the GDB and BINUITLS snapshot processes. Details to > > >>follow, however, suggest a short pause. > > > > > >Uh... yuck. > > > > > >Are there some details on the GDB and BINUTILS snapshot processes so that > > >I can fix *them*? This change is going to happen eventually, even if > > >it's reverted for now; the Makefile changes will be necessary for > > >autoonfiscation. > > > > > >Wait, let me look at Makefile.in... > > > > > >Ewwwww. The taz rules use Makefile.in *as a Makefile*. > > >That's the root of the problem, isn't it? Incidentally, that's > > >disgusting. :-) > > > > Well I think ``SHELL = @config_shell@'' is ugly :-) Why can't the > > configury code edit ``s/^SHELL =.*/SHELL = $.../''. > > Because that's disgusting? Having something which doesn't look like a > configury-overridden variable be edited in configure is very fragile. > > > The mechanism is very old (it pre-dates me as GDB release engineer). > > Changing it is going to involve updates to many things - snapshot > > scripts, release process doco, .... so won't happen overnight. > > GCC has had a separate script to make releases for years and years. > It's time GDB and Binutils did the same. FWIW, I like the current GDB release scheme a lot. It is very useful in my envrionment. H.J.