From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@ges.redhat.com>
Cc: Jason R Thorpe <thorpej@wasabisystems.com>,
gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch/rfc] Don't complain about unknown OSABI
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:11:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020820161127.GA26026@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D626854.1040500@ges.redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:03:32PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote:
>
> >>GDB uses ../bfd/config.bfd to find the default architecture. I think
> >>this has made our lives much easier -- gdb's and bfd's defaults match
> >>and we don't have to maintain anything. It really is a ``free lunch'' :-)
> >>
> >>Is there an equivalent for the OS/ABI? If we can pick that default up
> >>from binutils then we also get that for free. On the other hand if we
> >>start wiring this stuff into configure.tgt (duplicating ld/gcc) we take
> >>on an additional maintenance task.
> >
> >
> >Exactly my point. There is no OS/ABI equivalent; BFD doesn't know what
> >it is, and doesn't need to.
> >
> >I'll try to put this together tomorrow.
No, I won't. Too much arguing about the interaction with set
architecture that I didn't find in my inbox till after I said that.
I'd be willing to put together a version that didn't do that, leaving
the subtleties for a later hacker, but I expect Andrew wouldn't like
that very much :)
> Ah, M'kay :-)
>
> Next question. Given an unbranded mips-elf binary, what should the
> following GDB's do?
>
> gdb
> m68k-linux-gnu-gdb
Probably complain, unknown architecture. Yes, I know you mentioned
that one can do a certain amount of debugging with just an ELF-aware
GDB. Not enough that the OSABI ever comes into play, though.
> mips-gdb
> linux-gnu-gdb
> elf-gdb
These are all exceedingly hypothetical beasts at the moment, so I don't
know quite what you mean by the "triplet"s.
> mips-linux-gnu-gdb
> mips-netbsd-gdb
Default to Linux, default to NetBSD.
> Having the behavour key off the target creates a problem with an
> identical executable behaving differently with different, but similar
> GDBs. I suspect it will encourage people to build different GDB's for
> identical purposes when just a single GDB is needed.
That's my point though. I _need_ for a MIPS/Linux GDB to default to
MIPS/Linux if there's a missing branding. That's an ease-of-use,
obviousness-of-use thing. GDB has to accept that its detection
mechanisms are sometimes imperfect. There will be a set osabi command
of some sort, it now seems, so the user could always override if
necessary.
Just a single GDB is needed. But using the right tool for the task, or
at least a wrapper which sets the right variables for the task...
--
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-20 16:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-18 8:41 Andrew Cagney
2002-08-18 8:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-18 8:54 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-08-18 9:42 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19 9:15 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-19 16:03 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-19 16:15 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-08-19 18:55 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-20 9:03 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-20 9:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-08-21 10:04 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-21 10:08 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-21 10:11 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-08-21 13:26 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-21 13:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-23 6:07 ` Richard Earnshaw
2002-08-20 9:22 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-08-20 9:25 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-08-18 8:51 ` Jason R Thorpe
2002-08-18 8:52 ` Elena Zannoni
2002-08-18 11:01 ` Andrew Cagney
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