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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
To: Tom de Vries <tdevries@suse.de>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [gdb/build] Require c++17 compiler
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 18:22:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a90eccf-8814-4b46-a56f-aaf2a8f30248@palves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231005065449.32643-1-tdevries@suse.de>

On 2023-10-05 07:54, Tom de Vries via Gdb-patches wrote:

> Consequently, the NEWS item mentions gcc 9 as an example compiler to use.
> 
> My understanding of using gcc 5-8 is that it works as long as gdb doesn't use
> not yet available language features.  Of course the set of used language
> features may change in time, so what compiler still works may change.
> 
> Problems can arise when shared libs starts to have C++17 based APIs (or
> somehow expose instantiations of such classes).  If compiled with a compiler
> in which c++17 support was still experimental, it may be incompatible when
> linking with:
> - code compiled with a compiler with non-experimental c++17 support, or
> - code compiled with a different compiler with experimental c++17 support.
> 
> Looking at the current implementation of our only shared lib:
> libinproctrace.so, I couldn't spot any c++ usage in the API, so I'm assuming
> this problem is not likely to happen.

I think this concern goes beyond libinproctrace.co, and extends to APIs exposed
by libstdc++.  E.g., (and I haven't checked), say that the libstdc++ from GCC 6
implemented some C++17 library feature that we start using, but then the API/ABI of
that library feature changed in later GCCs.  Compiling GDB with GCC 6 and
expecting that it runs on a system with libstdc++ from GCC 9 may not work.  I don't
know whether there's some document or page or wiki or some such somewhere documenting
such ABI breakages.  +1 on requiring GCC 9, unless it proves troublesomely "too new"
in practice, which I hope not.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-12 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-05  6:54 Tom de Vries via Gdb-patches
2023-10-05 10:33 ` [PATCH RFC] " Lancelot SIX via Gdb-patches
2023-10-05 12:26   ` Andrew Burgess via Gdb-patches
2023-10-05 14:26     ` Lancelot SIX via Gdb-patches
2023-10-05 14:32       ` Simon Marchi via Gdb-patches
2023-10-05 14:55         ` Lancelot SIX via Gdb-patches
2023-10-09 14:32           ` Andrew Burgess
2023-10-05 15:55         ` Tom Tromey
2023-10-12 17:30   ` Pedro Alves
2023-10-05 15:31 ` [RFC] [gdb/build] " Tom Tromey
2023-10-10 17:39   ` Tom Tromey
2023-10-10 19:16     ` Simon Marchi
2023-10-12 17:10 ` Pedro Alves
2023-10-12 17:22 ` Pedro Alves [this message]

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